“Society sets a goal, and in moving toward that goal technology improves and you can set a better goal. Taking on that goal, it sets a sort of (example of) 'If Sweden can do it, why can't we?”
“As you set hard goals, industry is driven to profitability. You can produce energy for the private sphere and for public benefit. The public goal is important and the idea that the best prevails in the marketplace is ridiculous.”
